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AC Defender proposes meeting with Challenger and Jury Chairman to discuss outstanding issues

Posted on 31 December 2009 by Valencia Sailing

Related PDF Documents

- SNG letter to GGYC inviting the challenger to a meeting, dated 31 December 2009

[Source: Alinghi] The America’s Cup Defender, Société Nautique de Genève, sent a letter to Golden Gate Yacht Club representatives today inviting the American Challenger to a meeting with David Tillett, the Chairman of the 33rd America’s Cup International Jury, to discuss various topics raised by both teams.

SNG anticipates all issues to be resolved through discussion and expects the best-of-three 33rd America’s Cup Match to take place without delay, starting on 8 February in Valencia, Spain.

Please find the letter here below:

Mr. Marcus Young Commodore
The Golden Gate Yacht Club
#1 Yacht Road
San Francisco
California 94123
USA

31 December 2009

33rd America’s Cup

Dear Commodore,
I refer to our letter dated 27th December 2009, a brief email message I have received in response from your representative Mr. Ehman, your press release dated 28th December 2009 and your letter of 29th December 2009 welcoming our offer of a meeting to discuss the concerns you have raised. I am pleased you have accepted our offer of a meeting, and I hope we can continue the recent good progress we have both made in Sydney.

Given the success of the Sydney meeting, I propose the meeting is again held before the America’s Cup International Jury Chairman Mr. David Tillett. We have spoken to Mr. Tillett and he can be available for a meeting. He will respond directly to both competitors to confirm a date and place for the meeting.

You have raised concerns regarding possible sails and other unspecified equipment that might be used on a yacht or vessel that SNG may select to defend the America’s Cup just prior to the commencement of the first scheduled race of the Match, on 8th February 2010. As expressed in our previous letter, SNG defending yacht will be constructed in Switzerland in compliance with the provision in the Deed of Gift and SNG disagrees with your interpretation of this provision of the deed of gift. SNG observes the Deed only requires the “yacht or vessel” to be constructed in the respective country and does not expressly impose obligations in respect of any of the separate components onboard the yacht or vessel.

Should your proposed interpretation be followed, SNG would have similar concerns regarding a number of items of equipment onboard the USA. SNG is also concerned that USA’s rig is not as described in your challenge documents dated 11 July 2007.

It is sensible that our respective related mutual concerns be discussed and addressed together at the same meeting.

Once we have confirmation of the date and place, we will advise our representatives that will attend the meeting.

Yours sincerely,
Fred Meyer, Vice-Commodore and Chairman of America’s Cup Committee
Alec Tournier, General Secretary

cc. David Tillett – Chairman America’s Cup International Jury

10 Comments For This Post

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Open, honest and true. SNG again above board and sincere.

    Following tom ehman's recent allegations this is a breath of fresh air.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    Here it is. Sails compared to wing

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Yes, what about the NZ paint on board Oracle, european ropes, french rudder bearings, chinese carbin fibre, certainly everything but american electronics, english winches and deck hardware, canadian non-skid, italian hydraulics all over, partially french design, etc….

    Bad route this one that Oracle opened up…. this is being disturbing just for fun.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Well said Fred. Lets get on with it.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I wondered when SNG were going to mention the wing. The challenge documents describe the yacht as sloop rigged. Is a wingsail a sloop rig? I think the race jury will need to make a decision.

    Both teams are treading on very dangerous ground…

  6. Anonymous Says:

    AMEN, Fred!

  7. Anonymous Says:

    Both teams are treading on dangerous ground, but SNG's proposal brings a sensibility to proceedings. Let this be settled on the water now, BMWO, you have already made your point in court.Dont drag this potentially brilliant match down with bullshit.

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi… I hope someone from your team reads this carefully. Dont let BOR use the wing as a bargaining tool. They have no intention of sailing with it. Its all a scam. It is obvious they cannot be ready to race with such new technology. They will be sailing with a conventional rig and may well try to delay by saying they will give up the wing if Alinghi gives up 3DL. Watch this space. They need time and this is how they will try and get it. Dont give in to them. Tell em they can have their wing.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    SNG writes: "As expressed in our previous letter, SNG defending yacht will be constructed in Switzerland in compliance with the provision in the Deed of Gift". Will there be another yacht?

  10. Ramon Says:

    Hey guys, if they play with the "nationality" rules (sails) on court, why don't you argue on the fact that the wing conceptors are FRENCH ; and if they wanna play according the deed of gift, why don't you force them to come to Valencia … on their boat!

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AC Defender proposes meeting with Challenger and Jury Chairman to discuss outstanding issues

Posted on 31 December 2009 by Valencia Sailing

Related PDF Documents

- SNG letter to GGYC inviting the challenger to a meeting, dated 31 December 2009

[Source: Alinghi] The America’s Cup Defender, Société Nautique de Genève, sent a letter to Golden Gate Yacht Club representatives today inviting the American Challenger to a meeting with David Tillett, the Chairman of the 33rd America’s Cup International Jury, to discuss various topics raised by both teams.

SNG anticipates all issues to be resolved through discussion and expects the best-of-three 33rd America’s Cup Match to take place without delay, starting on 8 February in Valencia, Spain.

Please find the letter here below:

Mr. Marcus Young Commodore
The Golden Gate Yacht Club
#1 Yacht Road
San Francisco
California 94123
USA

31 December 2009

33rd America’s Cup

Dear Commodore,
I refer to our letter dated 27th December 2009, a brief email message I have received in response from your representative Mr. Ehman, your press release dated 28th December 2009 and your letter of 29th December 2009 welcoming our offer of a meeting to discuss the concerns you have raised. I am pleased you have accepted our offer of a meeting, and I hope we can continue the recent good progress we have both made in Sydney.

Given the success of the Sydney meeting, I propose the meeting is again held before the America’s Cup International Jury Chairman Mr. David Tillett. We have spoken to Mr. Tillett and he can be available for a meeting. He will respond directly to both competitors to confirm a date and place for the meeting.

You have raised concerns regarding possible sails and other unspecified equipment that might be used on a yacht or vessel that SNG may select to defend the America’s Cup just prior to the commencement of the first scheduled race of the Match, on 8th February 2010. As expressed in our previous letter, SNG defending yacht will be constructed in Switzerland in compliance with the provision in the Deed of Gift and SNG disagrees with your interpretation of this provision of the deed of gift. SNG observes the Deed only requires the “yacht or vessel” to be constructed in the respective country and does not expressly impose obligations in respect of any of the separate components onboard the yacht or vessel.

Should your proposed interpretation be followed, SNG would have similar concerns regarding a number of items of equipment onboard the USA. SNG is also concerned that USA’s rig is not as described in your challenge documents dated 11 July 2007.

It is sensible that our respective related mutual concerns be discussed and addressed together at the same meeting.

Once we have confirmation of the date and place, we will advise our representatives that will attend the meeting.

Yours sincerely,
Fred Meyer, Vice-Commodore and Chairman of America’s Cup Committee
Alec Tournier, General Secretary

cc. David Tillett – Chairman America’s Cup International Jury

20 Comments For This Post

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Open, honest and true. SNG again above board and sincere.

    Following tom ehman's recent allegations this is a breath of fresh air.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    Here it is. Sails compared to wing

  3. Anonymous Says:

    Yes, what about the NZ paint on board Oracle, european ropes, french rudder bearings, chinese carbin fibre, certainly everything but american electronics, english winches and deck hardware, canadian non-skid, italian hydraulics all over, partially french design, etc….

    Bad route this one that Oracle opened up…. this is being disturbing just for fun.

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Well said Fred. Lets get on with it.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I wondered when SNG were going to mention the wing. The challenge documents describe the yacht as sloop rigged. Is a wingsail a sloop rig? I think the race jury will need to make a decision.

    Both teams are treading on very dangerous ground…

  6. Anonymous Says:

    AMEN, Fred!

  7. Anonymous Says:

    Both teams are treading on dangerous ground, but SNG's proposal brings a sensibility to proceedings. Let this be settled on the water now, BMWO, you have already made your point in court.Dont drag this potentially brilliant match down with bullshit.

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi… I hope someone from your team reads this carefully. Dont let BOR use the wing as a bargaining tool. They have no intention of sailing with it. Its all a scam. It is obvious they cannot be ready to race with such new technology. They will be sailing with a conventional rig and may well try to delay by saying they will give up the wing if Alinghi gives up 3DL. Watch this space. They need time and this is how they will try and get it. Dont give in to them. Tell em they can have their wing.

  9. Anonymous Says:

    SNG writes: "As expressed in our previous letter, SNG defending yacht will be constructed in Switzerland in compliance with the provision in the Deed of Gift". Will there be another yacht?

  10. Ramon Says:

    Hey guys, if they play with the "nationality" rules (sails) on court, why don't you argue on the fact that the wing conceptors are FRENCH ; and if they wanna play according the deed of gift, why don't you force them to come to Valencia … on their boat!

  11. Anonymous Says:

    Open, honest and true. SNG again above board and sincere.

    Following tom ehman's recent allegations this is a breath of fresh air.

  12. Anonymous Says:

    Here it is. Sails compared to wing

  13. Anonymous Says:

    Yes, what about the NZ paint on board Oracle, european ropes, french rudder bearings, chinese carbin fibre, certainly everything but american electronics, english winches and deck hardware, canadian non-skid, italian hydraulics all over, partially french design, etc….

    Bad route this one that Oracle opened up…. this is being disturbing just for fun.

  14. Anonymous Says:

    Well said Fred. Lets get on with it.

  15. Anonymous Says:

    I wondered when SNG were going to mention the wing. The challenge documents describe the yacht as sloop rigged. Is a wingsail a sloop rig? I think the race jury will need to make a decision.

    Both teams are treading on very dangerous ground…

  16. Anonymous Says:

    AMEN, Fred!

  17. Anonymous Says:

    Both teams are treading on dangerous ground, but SNG's proposal brings a sensibility to proceedings. Let this be settled on the water now, BMWO, you have already made your point in court.Dont drag this potentially brilliant match down with bullshit.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi… I hope someone from your team reads this carefully. Dont let BOR use the wing as a bargaining tool. They have no intention of sailing with it. Its all a scam. It is obvious they cannot be ready to race with such new technology. They will be sailing with a conventional rig and may well try to delay by saying they will give up the wing if Alinghi gives up 3DL. Watch this space. They need time and this is how they will try and get it. Dont give in to them. Tell em they can have their wing.

  19. Anonymous Says:

    SNG writes: "As expressed in our previous letter, SNG defending yacht will be constructed in Switzerland in compliance with the provision in the Deed of Gift". Will there be another yacht?

  20. Ramon Says:

    Hey guys, if they play with the "nationality" rules (sails) on court, why don't you argue on the fact that the wing conceptors are FRENCH ; and if they wanna play according the deed of gift, why don't you force them to come to Valencia … on their boat!

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