SNG’s Fred Meyer comments on latest NY court ruling

Posted on 31 October 2009 by Valencia Sailing

[Source: Alinghi] Statement from Société Nautique de Genève vice-commodore Fred Meyer following yesterday’s New York Supreme Court ruling:

“Société Nautique de Genève continues to evaluate its options ahead of next Wednesday’s hearing. We hope that the pending issues will be resolved and that we will have certainty regarding the 33rd America’s Cup.

It’s disappointing that Justice Kornreich took yet another unprecedented decision that diminishes the rights of the Defender under the Deed of Gift by considering that rudders are not part of the load waterline length measurement,” said Fred Meyer, adding: “The Deed of Gift Match chosen by Golden Gate Yacht Club is not a mutual consent match and is therefore ruled by the strict provisions of the Deed, which read: ‘These ocean courses […] shall be selected by the Club holding the Cup; and these races shall be sailed subject to its rules and sailing regulations […]’. We expect Justice Kornreich to recognise these rights and respect the Defender’s position.”

20 Comments For This Post

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Dear Mr Meyers, I challenge you to attend the NYSC this Wed if you have the guts to go on the stand. You are so full of BS that you can't even explain in your writings that the rulings are Deed driven. You can't even take ownership of your own mistakes.

    More & more of us AC fans are getting behind this BOFD suit now as SNG is just so not worthy of being a Trustee. Mr. Meyers what you write proves that. Start telling the truth as this is about sailing not some huge commerical venture that belongs to SNG.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    The courts should strip SNG and name RNZYS (as the most recent trustee) trustee for the 33rd AC. Both GGYC and SNG have acted in a shameful manner. I agree with GGYC's decision to take SNG to court for their blatant cheating. Choosing a sham yacht club like CNEV and presenting a one-sided protocol designed to allow Alinghi to influence which challenger makes it to the Match showed a complete lack of regard for the Cup and its rich history.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    "It’s disappointing that Justice Kornreich took yet another unprecedented decision that diminishes the rights of the Defender under the Deed of Gift by considering that rudders are not part of the load waterline length measurement,…." There is not worse blind that the one that doesn't want to see (as they say in my place).
    Jonny Wetback

  4. Russ Says:

    I can feel, an appeal.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    6:23 AM How do you appeal an order that has already been the the highest court in NY state?

    SNG has screwed up once again with their arrogrance leading them to the yardarm. It's only a matter of time now until SNG completes their own punishment to themselves. The spectators will only shout HUZZAH, HUZZAH, HUZZAH!!!

  6. Anonymous Says:

    Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes

  7. Anonymous Says:

    So let me get this right, at the bequest of the challenger the courts will give them all the rights of the defender. I wonder if this would happen if the defender were american. An independent america´s cup body is definitely needed if for nothing else than to maintain what the american´s instilled as tradition. I wouldn´t be surprised if boies is banging kornreich… not a pretty thought

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Is it right that justice Kornreich is jewish like Jerry?

  9. Anonymous Says:

    @ 3:19

    I believe that is totally uncalled for.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    Unfortunately the Americans have played the system extremely well. Don't however think they have done it for any other reason than their own benefit.
    They have planned this meticulously from the start, so hat's off to them there. Having said this one has to wonder how it would have gone if they were in the courts of the UK who actualy started this thing. We should all hope that Alinghi give them a good thumping on the water as a Defence organised by these guys will be a nightmare. If it happens youjust watch the change in position.

  11. WetHog Says:

    Wow. Alinghi supporters see the writing on the wall so all they have left is to resort to personal attacks and suggest a Judge rules a certain way based on her religious affiliation?

    Euro-Trash true colors rising to the surface?

  12. Anonymous Says:

    So, let me get this straight. According to Kornreich an America's Cup match should never take place in:

    1. Any Muslim country
    2. China because of the persecution of the Catholic Church
    3. Germany and France because of the persecution of the Church of Scientology

    That doesn't leave a lot of options, does it?

  13. Anonymous Says:

    WetHog

    Get back to your trailer. You probably don't even know where Europe is. US the super power!

  14. Anonymous Says:

    To 10:43
    "Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes"
    Are you kidding ? Hirony ? Sorry mate, I'm a Swiss Citizen and both of those guys are certainly not what can be called "heroes" and my point of view is shared by many people here … Stupidity can be found everywhere, no need to live in any particular country ! Couldn't we just forget AC for a while since it's nothing more than a kindergarten ? Hopefully we will have some nice racing soon … until than …

  15. WetHog Says:

    @8:22

    Thanks for proving my point.

  16. Anonymous Says:

    Hey Wet Hog Your Cool. Gave that guy some shit.

  17. WetHog Says:

    My coolness has no limits. Thank you for noticing.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi sailf or Swiss. Support your team!
    Alinghi Alinghi Alinghi

  19. Anonymous Says:

    To 2:37
    Sorry again mate. Don't share the same feeling about some kind of blind national pride. That's something Ernesto has tried to show, but that doesn't work for me and I guess I can talk for many people around me … Look at Roger Federer, he is a fair and elegant player ! If he were American, I would still be a fan. This does not apply to Alinghi nor to BMW. Don't be fooled by the swiss flag on top of the mast and BTW, Alinghi wore some UBS logo not so long ago …
    Some day I may feel some national pride, but this will probably be more fundamental then because of childish behavior.
    This is time for you to open your eyes !

  20. Anonymous Says:

    For those of you who understand french : an humoristic clip about Alinghi and AC at the Swiss television … as I said before many people here simply don't take so easely what Ernesto is trying to make them eat. Do you ?

    http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=500000&bcid=712230#vid=11435677

SNG’s Fred Meyer comments on latest NY court ruling

Posted on 31 October 2009 by Valencia Sailing

[Source: Alinghi] Statement from Société Nautique de Genève vice-commodore Fred Meyer following yesterday’s New York Supreme Court ruling:

“Société Nautique de Genève continues to evaluate its options ahead of next Wednesday’s hearing. We hope that the pending issues will be resolved and that we will have certainty regarding the 33rd America’s Cup.

It’s disappointing that Justice Kornreich took yet another unprecedented decision that diminishes the rights of the Defender under the Deed of Gift by considering that rudders are not part of the load waterline length measurement,” said Fred Meyer, adding: “The Deed of Gift Match chosen by Golden Gate Yacht Club is not a mutual consent match and is therefore ruled by the strict provisions of the Deed, which read: ‘These ocean courses […] shall be selected by the Club holding the Cup; and these races shall be sailed subject to its rules and sailing regulations […]’. We expect Justice Kornreich to recognise these rights and respect the Defender’s position.”

40 Comments For This Post

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Dear Mr Meyers, I challenge you to attend the NYSC this Wed if you have the guts to go on the stand. You are so full of BS that you can't even explain in your writings that the rulings are Deed driven. You can't even take ownership of your own mistakes.

    More & more of us AC fans are getting behind this BOFD suit now as SNG is just so not worthy of being a Trustee. Mr. Meyers what you write proves that. Start telling the truth as this is about sailing not some huge commerical venture that belongs to SNG.

  2. Anonymous Says:

    The courts should strip SNG and name RNZYS (as the most recent trustee) trustee for the 33rd AC. Both GGYC and SNG have acted in a shameful manner. I agree with GGYC's decision to take SNG to court for their blatant cheating. Choosing a sham yacht club like CNEV and presenting a one-sided protocol designed to allow Alinghi to influence which challenger makes it to the Match showed a complete lack of regard for the Cup and its rich history.

  3. Anonymous Says:

    "It’s disappointing that Justice Kornreich took yet another unprecedented decision that diminishes the rights of the Defender under the Deed of Gift by considering that rudders are not part of the load waterline length measurement,…." There is not worse blind that the one that doesn't want to see (as they say in my place).
    Jonny Wetback

  4. Russ Says:

    I can feel, an appeal.

  5. Anonymous Says:

    6:23 AM How do you appeal an order that has already been the the highest court in NY state?

    SNG has screwed up once again with their arrogrance leading them to the yardarm. It's only a matter of time now until SNG completes their own punishment to themselves. The spectators will only shout HUZZAH, HUZZAH, HUZZAH!!!

  6. Anonymous Says:

    Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes

  7. Anonymous Says:

    So let me get this right, at the bequest of the challenger the courts will give them all the rights of the defender. I wonder if this would happen if the defender were american. An independent america´s cup body is definitely needed if for nothing else than to maintain what the american´s instilled as tradition. I wouldn´t be surprised if boies is banging kornreich… not a pretty thought

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Is it right that justice Kornreich is jewish like Jerry?

  9. Anonymous Says:

    @ 3:19

    I believe that is totally uncalled for.

  10. Anonymous Says:

    Unfortunately the Americans have played the system extremely well. Don't however think they have done it for any other reason than their own benefit.
    They have planned this meticulously from the start, so hat's off to them there. Having said this one has to wonder how it would have gone if they were in the courts of the UK who actualy started this thing. We should all hope that Alinghi give them a good thumping on the water as a Defence organised by these guys will be a nightmare. If it happens youjust watch the change in position.

  11. WetHog Says:

    Wow. Alinghi supporters see the writing on the wall so all they have left is to resort to personal attacks and suggest a Judge rules a certain way based on her religious affiliation?

    Euro-Trash true colors rising to the surface?

  12. Anonymous Says:

    So, let me get this straight. According to Kornreich an America's Cup match should never take place in:

    1. Any Muslim country
    2. China because of the persecution of the Catholic Church
    3. Germany and France because of the persecution of the Church of Scientology

    That doesn't leave a lot of options, does it?

  13. Anonymous Says:

    WetHog

    Get back to your trailer. You probably don't even know where Europe is. US the super power!

  14. Anonymous Says:

    To 10:43
    "Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes"
    Are you kidding ? Hirony ? Sorry mate, I'm a Swiss Citizen and both of those guys are certainly not what can be called "heroes" and my point of view is shared by many people here … Stupidity can be found everywhere, no need to live in any particular country ! Couldn't we just forget AC for a while since it's nothing more than a kindergarten ? Hopefully we will have some nice racing soon … until than …

  15. WetHog Says:

    @8:22

    Thanks for proving my point.

  16. Anonymous Says:

    Hey Wet Hog Your Cool. Gave that guy some shit.

  17. WetHog Says:

    My coolness has no limits. Thank you for noticing.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi sailf or Swiss. Support your team!
    Alinghi Alinghi Alinghi

  19. Anonymous Says:

    To 2:37
    Sorry again mate. Don't share the same feeling about some kind of blind national pride. That's something Ernesto has tried to show, but that doesn't work for me and I guess I can talk for many people around me … Look at Roger Federer, he is a fair and elegant player ! If he were American, I would still be a fan. This does not apply to Alinghi nor to BMW. Don't be fooled by the swiss flag on top of the mast and BTW, Alinghi wore some UBS logo not so long ago …
    Some day I may feel some national pride, but this will probably be more fundamental then because of childish behavior.
    This is time for you to open your eyes !

  20. Anonymous Says:

    For those of you who understand french : an humoristic clip about Alinghi and AC at the Swiss television … as I said before many people here simply don't take so easely what Ernesto is trying to make them eat. Do you ?

    http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=500000&bcid=712230#vid=11435677

  21. Anonymous Says:

    Dear Mr Meyers, I challenge you to attend the NYSC this Wed if you have the guts to go on the stand. You are so full of BS that you can't even explain in your writings that the rulings are Deed driven. You can't even take ownership of your own mistakes.

    More & more of us AC fans are getting behind this BOFD suit now as SNG is just so not worthy of being a Trustee. Mr. Meyers what you write proves that. Start telling the truth as this is about sailing not some huge commerical venture that belongs to SNG.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    The courts should strip SNG and name RNZYS (as the most recent trustee) trustee for the 33rd AC. Both GGYC and SNG have acted in a shameful manner. I agree with GGYC's decision to take SNG to court for their blatant cheating. Choosing a sham yacht club like CNEV and presenting a one-sided protocol designed to allow Alinghi to influence which challenger makes it to the Match showed a complete lack of regard for the Cup and its rich history.

  23. Anonymous Says:

    "It’s disappointing that Justice Kornreich took yet another unprecedented decision that diminishes the rights of the Defender under the Deed of Gift by considering that rudders are not part of the load waterline length measurement,…." There is not worse blind that the one that doesn't want to see (as they say in my place).
    Jonny Wetback

  24. Russ Says:

    I can feel, an appeal.

  25. Anonymous Says:

    6:23 AM How do you appeal an order that has already been the the highest court in NY state?

    SNG has screwed up once again with their arrogrance leading them to the yardarm. It's only a matter of time now until SNG completes their own punishment to themselves. The spectators will only shout HUZZAH, HUZZAH, HUZZAH!!!

  26. Anonymous Says:

    Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes

  27. Anonymous Says:

    So let me get this right, at the bequest of the challenger the courts will give them all the rights of the defender. I wonder if this would happen if the defender were american. An independent america´s cup body is definitely needed if for nothing else than to maintain what the american´s instilled as tradition. I wouldn´t be surprised if boies is banging kornreich… not a pretty thought

  28. Anonymous Says:

    Is it right that justice Kornreich is jewish like Jerry?

  29. Anonymous Says:

    @ 3:19

    I believe that is totally uncalled for.

  30. Anonymous Says:

    Unfortunately the Americans have played the system extremely well. Don't however think they have done it for any other reason than their own benefit.
    They have planned this meticulously from the start, so hat's off to them there. Having said this one has to wonder how it would have gone if they were in the courts of the UK who actualy started this thing. We should all hope that Alinghi give them a good thumping on the water as a Defence organised by these guys will be a nightmare. If it happens youjust watch the change in position.

  31. WetHog Says:

    Wow. Alinghi supporters see the writing on the wall so all they have left is to resort to personal attacks and suggest a Judge rules a certain way based on her religious affiliation?

    Euro-Trash true colors rising to the surface?

  32. Anonymous Says:

    So, let me get this straight. According to Kornreich an America's Cup match should never take place in:

    1. Any Muslim country
    2. China because of the persecution of the Catholic Church
    3. Germany and France because of the persecution of the Church of Scientology

    That doesn't leave a lot of options, does it?

  33. Anonymous Says:

    WetHog

    Get back to your trailer. You probably don't even know where Europe is. US the super power!

  34. Anonymous Says:

    To 10:43
    "Fred Meyer, along with Ernesto is national heroe.
    Alinghi, Alinghi, Alinghi
    Our Americas cup heroes"
    Are you kidding ? Hirony ? Sorry mate, I'm a Swiss Citizen and both of those guys are certainly not what can be called "heroes" and my point of view is shared by many people here … Stupidity can be found everywhere, no need to live in any particular country ! Couldn't we just forget AC for a while since it's nothing more than a kindergarten ? Hopefully we will have some nice racing soon … until than …

  35. WetHog Says:

    @8:22

    Thanks for proving my point.

  36. Anonymous Says:

    Hey Wet Hog Your Cool. Gave that guy some shit.

  37. WetHog Says:

    My coolness has no limits. Thank you for noticing.

  38. Anonymous Says:

    Alinghi sailf or Swiss. Support your team!
    Alinghi Alinghi Alinghi

  39. Anonymous Says:

    To 2:37
    Sorry again mate. Don't share the same feeling about some kind of blind national pride. That's something Ernesto has tried to show, but that doesn't work for me and I guess I can talk for many people around me … Look at Roger Federer, he is a fair and elegant player ! If he were American, I would still be a fan. This does not apply to Alinghi nor to BMW. Don't be fooled by the swiss flag on top of the mast and BTW, Alinghi wore some UBS logo not so long ago …
    Some day I may feel some national pride, but this will probably be more fundamental then because of childish behavior.
    This is time for you to open your eyes !

  40. Anonymous Says:

    For those of you who understand french : an humoristic clip about Alinghi and AC at the Swiss television … as I said before many people here simply don't take so easely what Ernesto is trying to make them eat. Do you ?

    http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=500000&bcid=712230#vid=11435677

Leave a comment







 

Sailing Calendar